so what are they really talking about? Thin graphitic sheets? Something else? The word "graphene" may be playing into a psyop, like to distract from lanthanide elements in the shots etc. that are harder to explain away.
As you rightly intimate, there are many toxic substances in them (clearly by intention) that should not be and those that should be there (according to the approved/received narrative) are not e.g., mRNA/DNA.
As an aside, I see the "spike protein" as a hypothetical (theoretically postulated but physically unproven) construct but used in the same sense, graphene would not be. I think there is good evidence that graphene physically exists, not simply as an idea or hypothetical construct. Whether graphene was intentionally placed in the so-called CV19 vaccines and whether that has been adequately proven, is a topic that could be debated further, but I believe both are true.
To date, I have been totally unable to engage any so-called Medical Freedom person (who admits that the CV19 injections are dangerous), in such a public debate. Two responses have been forthcoming; 1) total silence or 2) denial, without ever providing a detailed critique of the materials and methods of the dozens of researchers who found graphene in the vials of CV19 vaccines they examined. That is extremely suspicious.
Thanks. See the discovery paper I put in the link, it says it is hypothetical, when I called a well known graphene academic center they say it is proved by “it got the Nobel Prize”, but no paper. Do you have a paper proving there is an it, it’s structure and specs, not just electronic props or other indirect or inferred study. If not we need to tread slowly, even though I believed in it fully for a few years.
I think the physical existence of graphene is well-established. None of the CV19 antivax medical freedom people who opine publicly under their own names have alleged that graphene does not exist. They either refuse to respond or deny that it has been found in vials of CV19 vaccines (without providing a critique of the materials and method of those who have found it, e.g. Pablo Campra). This is the first time I have heard anyone seem to suggest that graphene doesn't exist, but I may have misunderstood your comment.
Are you saying you dispute the original Novoselov et al paper from 2004 in which graphene synthesis from graphite was first elucidated,
or are you saying you don't think graphene can be synthesized by any of the techniques that have subsequently been described?
Here I quoted from the Novoselov paper in the link above. Note the words I put in CAPS:
Graphene is the NAME given to a single layer of carbon atoms densely packed into a benzene-ring structure. This HYPOTHETICAL material is widely used to describe properties of many carbon-based materials…
Our measurements can be explained quantitatively by a MODEL of a 2D metal with a small overlap between conductance and valence bands.
I went to your ss article, (The True Nature of Graphene), but I don't see anything in CAPS. Can you direct me to it or print out exactly which words were in CAPS?
If you don't mind, what was the "well known graphene academic center" that you contacted? I would like to contact them also. I think you mentioned "4 high level graphene researchers" that you contacted asking "for a paper proving the existence of graphene" (in your article). Can I have the names? I would like to follow-up with them as I think this is a very crucial issue.
some may have been affiliated with other depts at MIT, none responded.
I may have written to 4 persons not 4 places, or there may have been 2 other places but I didn't keep the contact attempts. Sorry, it's 13 months and dozens of posts later...
Censored by those guys (covidid) for a polite comment, so I have no trust there. Censored in a way that no one could see my logical comment.
Aside from that, Campra has also come out with more recent clarification about how his work was used.
Graphene is now in about 40k products so will be in everyone's homes today. Also the patents for it in jp8 and car engine oil are not hard to find. How would you graphenate a planet?
Unlike most I have both made and bought graphene / RGO to experiment with.
I was censored by covid id for defending david nixon as an honest dr and showing how illogical their attack was.
I was censored on lcq when i mentioned clifford carnicom and the cross domain bacteria. Those are morgellons fibers not graphene in many shots on mira al microscopio where i was posting in the early days..
Is there a link to where I can read what they said about either David Nixon or Clifford Carnicom? I would like to know the apparent reasoning they used.
Thanks Matt, for clarifying that you purchased the reduced graphene oxide and synthesized the graphene oxide. Did you have an elemental analysis performed (e.g. mass spec, micro-Raman or EDX spectroscopy) on the latter and then post photographs of the microscopic appearance of what you synthesized? Given the comments above, it might be useful for people to consider the process you utilized to qualitatively be sure you had graphene. My apologies for beating a dead horse but as you can see, the existence of graphene as a unique physical substance (as opposed to a hypothetical one) is being seriously questioned here.
Hi John, someplace we need to face the fact that graphene is hypothetical
https://protonmagic.substack.com/p/the-true-nature-of-graphene
so what are they really talking about? Thin graphitic sheets? Something else? The word "graphene" may be playing into a psyop, like to distract from lanthanide elements in the shots etc. that are harder to explain away.
As you rightly intimate, there are many toxic substances in them (clearly by intention) that should not be and those that should be there (according to the approved/received narrative) are not e.g., mRNA/DNA.
As an aside, I see the "spike protein" as a hypothetical (theoretically postulated but physically unproven) construct but used in the same sense, graphene would not be. I think there is good evidence that graphene physically exists, not simply as an idea or hypothetical construct. Whether graphene was intentionally placed in the so-called CV19 vaccines and whether that has been adequately proven, is a topic that could be debated further, but I believe both are true.
To date, I have been totally unable to engage any so-called Medical Freedom person (who admits that the CV19 injections are dangerous), in such a public debate. Two responses have been forthcoming; 1) total silence or 2) denial, without ever providing a detailed critique of the materials and methods of the dozens of researchers who found graphene in the vials of CV19 vaccines they examined. That is extremely suspicious.
Thanks. See the discovery paper I put in the link, it says it is hypothetical, when I called a well known graphene academic center they say it is proved by “it got the Nobel Prize”, but no paper. Do you have a paper proving there is an it, it’s structure and specs, not just electronic props or other indirect or inferred study. If not we need to tread slowly, even though I believed in it fully for a few years.
I'm not sure I understand.
I think the physical existence of graphene is well-established. None of the CV19 antivax medical freedom people who opine publicly under their own names have alleged that graphene does not exist. They either refuse to respond or deny that it has been found in vials of CV19 vaccines (without providing a critique of the materials and method of those who have found it, e.g. Pablo Campra). This is the first time I have heard anyone seem to suggest that graphene doesn't exist, but I may have misunderstood your comment.
Are you saying you dispute the original Novoselov et al paper from 2004 in which graphene synthesis from graphite was first elucidated,
or are you saying you don't think graphene can be synthesized by any of the techniques that have subsequently been described?
Here I quoted from the Novoselov paper in the link above. Note the words I put in CAPS:
Graphene is the NAME given to a single layer of carbon atoms densely packed into a benzene-ring structure. This HYPOTHETICAL material is widely used to describe properties of many carbon-based materials…
Our measurements can be explained quantitatively by a MODEL of a 2D metal with a small overlap between conductance and valence bands.
Thanks Proton.
I went to your ss article, (The True Nature of Graphene), but I don't see anything in CAPS. Can you direct me to it or print out exactly which words were in CAPS?
If you don't mind, what was the "well known graphene academic center" that you contacted? I would like to contact them also. I think you mentioned "4 high level graphene researchers" that you contacted asking "for a paper proving the existence of graphene" (in your article). Can I have the names? I would like to follow-up with them as I think this is a very crucial issue.
The caps I MADE are in my comment above not in the article. I don't always keep my notes to posts but this one I have.
I contacted a few persons here thinking they would be more "grass roots" and reply to me also being in Japan
https://www.gic.kyushu-u.ac.jp/ago/selfintro-e.html
Only one replied with, "The Nobel prize was granted for the discovery of graphene. I think that should suffice." He didn't reply to my further reply.
I also wrote to a few persons here,
https://cqe.mit.edu/
some may have been affiliated with other depts at MIT, none responded.
I may have written to 4 persons not 4 places, or there may have been 2 other places but I didn't keep the contact attempts. Sorry, it's 13 months and dozens of posts later...
Ugh, it smells like False Dissidence
Censored by those guys (covidid) for a polite comment, so I have no trust there. Censored in a way that no one could see my logical comment.
Aside from that, Campra has also come out with more recent clarification about how his work was used.
Graphene is now in about 40k products so will be in everyone's homes today. Also the patents for it in jp8 and car engine oil are not hard to find. How would you graphenate a planet?
Unlike most I have both made and bought graphene / RGO to experiment with.
Thank you for your comment and indicating that you have synthesized reduced graphene oxide. Are you saying you were censored by LQC?
I would be very interested in knowing what your comment was.
I was censored by covid id for defending david nixon as an honest dr and showing how illogical their attack was.
I was censored on lcq when i mentioned clifford carnicom and the cross domain bacteria. Those are morgellons fibers not graphene in many shots on mira al microscopio where i was posting in the early days..
I bought the rgo, but made the g.o.
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Is there a link to where I can read what they said about either David Nixon or Clifford Carnicom? I would like to know the apparent reasoning they used.
Thanks Matt, for clarifying that you purchased the reduced graphene oxide and synthesized the graphene oxide. Did you have an elemental analysis performed (e.g. mass spec, micro-Raman or EDX spectroscopy) on the latter and then post photographs of the microscopic appearance of what you synthesized? Given the comments above, it might be useful for people to consider the process you utilized to qualitatively be sure you had graphene. My apologies for beating a dead horse but as you can see, the existence of graphene as a unique physical substance (as opposed to a hypothetical one) is being seriously questioned here.